Friday, April 21, 2006

A Mouse in Wolf's Clothing (Part V)

Spinoza did not view human beings as bodies with souls in them, or as souls with bodies wrapped around them. The Spinozistic body and soul are not separate things, but are simply two different ways of looking at the same thing. With body and soul as two aspects of one thing, whatever happens in one also happens in the other. What appears as a motion of the body appears to the mind as the idea of the motion. As Spinoza says, “The order and connection of ideas is the same as the order and connection of things.” The problem of interaction disappears. Whatever happens in either the mind or the body happens simultaneously in the other.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on who you are), while Spinoza’s rescue makes it possible for the body and soul to reunite, it also snatches the rug from beneath the feet of Descartes’ compromise. The reunification of body and soul denies them true separateness, and thus denies significantly separate roles for religion and science. Those things considered important and proper for religious man to think about, now become equally important and proper for scientific man to think about. As Spinoza might have said, “The order and connection of religious matters is the same as the order and connection of scientific matters.” In short, a man cannot truly exist who is religious but not scientific, nor a scientific man who is not religious. The scientist may not know he’s religious. The religious man may not know he’s scientific. And even when reminded of the inescapability of their dual nature, both may doubt that they are the other. But if Spinoza has got the straight of it, the truth of science (if there be such) constitutes a critically inseparable part of the religious man’s truth. That is, what’s true of God is true of the world, what’s true of the world is true of God.

Oh, and one other thing, if Spinoza is right, then the mainstream beliefs of western culture are essentially false. Aristotle permitted an error of gross proportion to endure in his work. Aquinas brought about a unification of the worst of Aristotle and the worst of religion, producing a work so shot through with metaphysical and theological flaws that by no stretch of the imagination can its literal meaning ever be made compatible with science. The Cartesian compromise, an error of first magnitude, left religion and science to walk their separate ways, both headed in the wrong direction. The common people of the world – those who are in fact the world’s critical mass – still think of science and religion as separate areas of concern.

One may doubt that science and religion will ever be routed back into the single path where they belong. Scientists trust nothing that cannot be demonstrated by repeatable experiment. Religionists regard such demonstrations as of trivial importance, with the real values resting upon articles of faith that, by definition, cannot be demonstrated. [See Hebrews 11:1.] Both the scientists and the religionists have so deeply implanted the separateness of their domains in the psychological makeup of the human race that, even if they were to admit their errors and seek to change direction, the chance seems remote that the new course would be adopted by humankind. Some stupid people are flying airplanes into tall buildings because they believe what their religionists tell them. By way of revenge, other stupid people, by implying that they speak to God, are justifying the destruction of innocent nations. So-called rational scientists, while admitting placebo effects, still deny the mind a place in the eternal chain of causes and effects. In some of their most socially meaningful theories (I have evolution theory in mind), they refuse – almost angrily – to admit mind as a causative agent. To the extent they believe that minds exist, they seem content to live with Descartes’ error. What method can possibly change any of these people – scientists and religionists – into truly rational human souls?

[To be continued]

9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon Two responding:spinoza was wrong on his theory of mind soul not being separate.Our brains are, in essence, highly evolved biological computers of astounding sophistication. Tuned in to a spectrum of sensory awareness, the function of the brain is to make sense of the senses and process the tsunami of information we are inundated with from birth.

Our entire body of likes, dislikes, predispositions, defense mechanisms,
and all other factors incorporated into our individual personality
matrices collectively comprise our interface with the rest of the
universe. As we continue to strive for self-awareness we become
increasingly cognizent of our psychic software and all the strengths and weaknesses inherent within. If we desire to alter or augment our personalities we must first decipher the encoded script of our subconscious personat parameters, and cracking the codes of our psyches can be tedious.


From within this colloquial kingdom the universe appears to be fragmented and disconnected, a turbid collection of loose and separate objects chaotically colliding with each other with
no apparent semblance of order: alas, behold the tragic majesty that
is the cosmic Newtonian pinball machine. When our sense of self
becomes shrouded in rhetoric we feel this very disconnection
resounding throughout our souls, the screams for reconciliation muted
by the concrete walls of idle verbosity. But this separation, this disunity, is not real; it is only an illusion. While our minds are all too eager to differentiate and compartmentalize the various energy patterns swirling around us in a perpetual ballet of sound and form,it remains that energy itself can never be created nor destroyed, only changed- and thus there exists only One universal energy field in
existence.

The soul is a living mirror, the mind the electro-mechanically
produced reflection. With the senses come the gift of apprehension of the physical plane, yet keeping us rooted in mere location; whereas
the mind grants us access to the entire Kosmos, allowing consciousness to stretch out and explore the farthest reaches of reality.

Fri Apr 21, 04:03:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Benedict S. said...

You have provided a well-written description of the functioning of the human mind, but that much was obvious -- though perhaps not so eloquently -- to any conscious person. Those same people are also conscious of the fact that they have bodies, and those two apparencies -- mind and body -- constitute the elements of the philosophical mind-body problem.

Spinoza's solution unifies the two, calling them attibutes of God or Nature. Other solutions, either leave mind and body separate or deny the reality of one or the other of them. I'm not sure which solution you would choose after you deny Spinoza's "dual aspect" theory, but it sounds like you may be opting for Cartesian dualism, the purest and most widely believed idea. It has going for it that by separating mind (or soul) and body, theologies can be conceived that permit one to survive the other, a convenience not so easily obtained by the dual aspect theory.

But Cartesian dualism, in addition to being the most popular solution to the mind-body problem, is also the most philosophically refutable. I think I have adequately described (somewhere above) Descartes' error, but if you wish to read more on that subject I recommend Antonio Damasio's best seller that goes by that name, Descartes' Error. The same author has also written a nice little book called, Looking for Spinoza,. The Spinoza book is about as well-written a piece of literature as you will find by an acclaimed neuroscientist. I haven't read the Descartes book but I bet it's also a good one.

I would like to read your approsch to the mind-body problem. You have an obvious gift for self-expression, one that I am confident has and will continue to serve you well.

Sat Apr 22, 08:20:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mouse, you may be complimenting anon-two's style a bit to soon. Unless his real name, or another pseudonym, is "C. W. deVos" he probably did not write some of what he posted. (Google "colloquial kingdom".)Here's an excerpt from "deVos."

"The primary reason this is so dangerous stems from the fact that from within this colloquial kingdom the universe appears to be fragmented and disconnected, a turbid collection of loose and separate objects chaotically colliding with each other with
no apparent semblance of order: alas, behold the tragic majesty that is the cosmic Newtonian pinball machine. When our sense of self becomes shrouded in rhetoric we feel this very disconnection resounding throughout our souls, the screams for reconciliation muted
by the concrete walls of idle verbosity. But this separation, this disunity, is not real; it is only an illusion. While our minds are all too eager to differentiate and compartmentalize the various energy patterns swirling around us in a perpetual ballet of sound and form, it remains that energy itself can never be created nor destroyed, only changed- and thus there exists only One universal energy field in existence.
"

As you see, this is word for word the same as a part of what anon-two wrote. Moreover, deVos seems to be making a statement that is pure Spinozism, a position anon-two does not appear to recognize or share. So maybe you've got a plagarist on your hands.

[I am a casual browser here, no more a Spinoza lover than anon-two, but I'll check back just to see where this leads.]

Sat Apr 22, 08:57:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Benedict S. said...

Robin, Robin, say it ain't so!

Sat Apr 22, 01:05:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon Two responding: If you recieved my email then you know we all exchange ideas on philosophy,that's the way it is in a soroity house.Anon is a little quick to point the finger,"C. W. deVos" is a blogger and I told you we love to blog,his address is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath/messages/701?viscount=100

Do a quick google search on "C. W. deVos" and he has about 4 listings that show his thoughts and ideas when he went to Stanford.My Mom and Dad would kill me were they to think I was plagiarizing.`

Anon,of course I don't understand Spinoza or recognize him,I am second semester Philosophy student,now don't you feel ashamed of yourself?

Sun Apr 23, 04:19:00 PM 2006  
Blogger Benedict S. said...

J did not receive your email. I don't yet understand how deVos's words can be your words unless one of you copied from the other. I don't know who anonymous was -- or is -- but I can understand his concern.

However, I take you at your word that your explanation is a good one, even if I do not understand it.

Please resend the email. It surely must be lost, strayed or disappeared.

Sun Apr 23, 05:07:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not the anon who is familiar with ol' CW, but Robin seems eerily like someone you and I know in another life...

Sun Apr 23, 08:39:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the last anon,I know you,you are the blogger that follows me around and makes wise-ass cracks,you are Senior Bully Doom.Why are you using anonymous,didn't think I would recognize you?

Mon Apr 24, 03:55:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's Senor Bully Doom young lady!

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Tue Apr 25, 08:29:00 PM 2006  

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