Mouse in Dreamland
[The following is from the preface of one of my several unpublished (and unpublishable) books. I was reminded of it by a dissertation on the wonders of modern pharmacology in another blog (click on my Fairhope Lady link). I make no claim that life is not in fact as we dream it rather than as we live it, but I do claim that at this moment I do not believe I am dreaming.]
“If there were a bird who first wanted to examine the size of the sky, or a fish who first wanted to examine the extent of the water—and then try to fly or to swim, they will never find their own ways in the sky or the water.”[1]
Before taking his rib for use in the manufacture of the first woman, God caused a “great sleep” to fall over Adam. The Bible contains no report of Adam’s waking up.[2] Working the same side of the same street, Mark Twain wrote a long, bad story from the viewpoint of a man dreaming. He claimed he was making the point that what we call life may be a dream and our dreams the true reality. The notion catches the fancy.
By inclination unwilling and by nature unable to deal with the probably impossible, I turn my back on these vaporous diversions. Adam waked up and even though some living things sometimes dream when they sleep, life and the world are pretty much as they appear to be. How do I know that’s so? I don’t, but I’m aiming the words in this book at awake (or dreaming) people just like me. If they read it while awake (or sleeping) and understand what I’ve written, then awake or asleep, I’ve succeeded. To wonder whether we are asleep and dreaming when we think we are awake and thinking would be to commit the error of Dogen’s bird and fish. Such questions may titillate us or distract us or cast us into pleasant thralls of doubt, but they won’t help us to find our way.
But it has been argued that “from this sleep called life we awaken in death,” that “living is not our ultimate purpose,” that “life is the larval stage of existence.” No analysis of assertions like these can shed light on their truth value, for they have none. They may be true, but if so, we must await the end of life in order to know it. The same goes for their falsehood; it cannot be known this side of the grave (and certainly not thereafter). Any system of belief that makes of life something wholly other to what it seems, is of a kind with systems that claim we are asleep when awake. They suggest differences the living will never see.
[1] From the Zen Master Dogen (13th Century), his Shobogenzo, quoted in Alan W. Watts, The Way of Zen.
[2] This is not an original thought. I think I read it in something by the clever writer, Robert Anton Wilson. But maybe it wasn't Wilson. Could have been Robert Persig or Goethe . . . or Tom Clancy.
“If there were a bird who first wanted to examine the size of the sky, or a fish who first wanted to examine the extent of the water—and then try to fly or to swim, they will never find their own ways in the sky or the water.”[1]
Before taking his rib for use in the manufacture of the first woman, God caused a “great sleep” to fall over Adam. The Bible contains no report of Adam’s waking up.[2] Working the same side of the same street, Mark Twain wrote a long, bad story from the viewpoint of a man dreaming. He claimed he was making the point that what we call life may be a dream and our dreams the true reality. The notion catches the fancy.
By inclination unwilling and by nature unable to deal with the probably impossible, I turn my back on these vaporous diversions. Adam waked up and even though some living things sometimes dream when they sleep, life and the world are pretty much as they appear to be. How do I know that’s so? I don’t, but I’m aiming the words in this book at awake (or dreaming) people just like me. If they read it while awake (or sleeping) and understand what I’ve written, then awake or asleep, I’ve succeeded. To wonder whether we are asleep and dreaming when we think we are awake and thinking would be to commit the error of Dogen’s bird and fish. Such questions may titillate us or distract us or cast us into pleasant thralls of doubt, but they won’t help us to find our way.
But it has been argued that “from this sleep called life we awaken in death,” that “living is not our ultimate purpose,” that “life is the larval stage of existence.” No analysis of assertions like these can shed light on their truth value, for they have none. They may be true, but if so, we must await the end of life in order to know it. The same goes for their falsehood; it cannot be known this side of the grave (and certainly not thereafter). Any system of belief that makes of life something wholly other to what it seems, is of a kind with systems that claim we are asleep when awake. They suggest differences the living will never see.
[1] From the Zen Master Dogen (13th Century), his Shobogenzo, quoted in Alan W. Watts, The Way of Zen.
[2] This is not an original thought. I think I read it in something by the clever writer, Robert Anton Wilson. But maybe it wasn't Wilson. Could have been Robert Persig or Goethe . . . or Tom Clancy.
11 Comments:
This post is going to leave a lot of people (including moi) confused. Is life a dream? Is reality real? Where am I, in Sophomore Philosophy 140? I'll wait til night and take my melatonin and see what happens.
"Is life a dream? Is reality real?"
I dunno, ff, what do you think?
Oh this is my kind of stuff,just wait until I have had a good night's sleep and wake up tomorrow and I shall give it my best shot.
mouse,you touched upon a subject that I totally believe in,life is a dream,evolution is our way of coming out of the dream.Until tomorrow then.
Is life a dream,well,the answer may be that we all are - collectively dreaming.If we are the
Universe, as well as essentially being spiritually One -
indivisibly part of the Source/God/Creator of all - then we can conclude that we co-create the joint dream-reality we all
participate in and perceive around us.
But what is the purpose of this complex interwoven dance we call
life? Why did we manifest in this manner? The stories of esoteric
spiritual teachings can help here. For example, the Garden of
Eden story teaches that through tasting the apple of the
knowledge of Good and Evil, we lost sight of the Divine
Consciousness, and were sent into exile from true reality into
this world of dreams.
What is the symbolic significance of the apple of the knowledge
of Good and Evil? It represents the choice to live through
misperception, and to view life from the standpoint of Duality
and Division; Good and Evil, Right and Wrong, Life and Death,
etc. Instead of participating in Unity consciousness, we choose
Duality and are thus exiled from the divine spiritual perspective
into this confusing world of ever moving shadows. We live in the
world of Effects, without ever seeing the world of Causes.
We live in the world of shadows, obsessed with duality,
and seeing no further than our senses permit.
How's that John S?
Robin: See what a good nap will do.
I'm a little tired myself today. So
for a well reasoned comment on the subject, I will direct you to ff's site under her blog "Melatonin and Me" dated June 28
Now after a nap, some thoughtful reading, with a more focused mind I feel up to addressing your thoughtful blog with the attention it well deserves.
I have to disagree with your well argued, interpretation of the fall from grace of humankind as a sort of digression to a lower level, from the complete acceptance of a simple divine unity of the oneness with god, into of the world of un-divine and unenlightened dualities or separation from god. In fact it is just the opposite.
After becoming aware of man and woman’s supposed original sin, god gives this reason for his banishment and punishments.
3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever. 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So as we see, god, by his own words, acknowledges that the ultimate divine spiritual knowledge is duality.
In order to protect and secure his position as a god over humankind; humankind cannot be allowed to attain eternal life, and therefore each generation of as it gains that knowledge of duality that makes it legitimate equal of god, must die and be returned to earth and every new generation must come into world innocent of its true nature. The punishment, ”to till the ground from whence he was taken” is specifically designed to humiliate, subjugate and degrade humans by forcing them to create the sustenance of life as god created them.
What is the divine knowledge and source of spirituality? It is the unity of completely seperate and opposites dualities. This is best symbolically, expressed in its ultimate purity and simplicity as the familiar black and White Yin and Yang symbol. For an explanation of it’s origins go to
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/yinyang.htm
In the symbol we see the universe as represented by a circle. The circle is divided, not in half by a static division along its diameter, but as two dynamic, opposite and separate but equal black and white elements, that are in a circular flow of space and time. What brings this to a level beyond the recognition of the simple mirror image relationship of opposites to level of divine knowledge, are the two spots, black in the white and white in the black. It is the ultimate divine knowledge of duality that within one, lies the seed of the other. It is this knowledge that makes god and man equals as divine spiritual and physical beings.
Without that presence there can be no intimate relationships, or recognition of one’s self in the other. This goes to your beta male argument over on ff’s site. I would argue the real reason human beings rape, murder, kill and abuse is not because they are inadequate beta males or females but because they are sociopaths who have come to lack the human ability to see themselves in others. Therfore their victims become un-relatable inhuman objects of no or little importance.
I hope this does justice to your obvious intelligence and the level at which you generated your argument.
Keep up the good work, it keeps me thinkin', awake and on my toes.
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